I Refuse to Train a New Worker Who Earns 40% More Than I Do

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I Refuse to Train a New Worker Who Earns 40% More Than I Do

I never thought I would be stuck in this kind of situation, but here we are. I work hard, I show up on time, I do overtime when asked, and I have been loyal to this company for years. I am not lazy or entitled. I just want fair pay for the work I already do. But apparently that’s too much to ask.

Hi! Thank you for choosing my story.

So here is the situation. For almost three years, I have been asking for a raise. Not demanding, not threatening, just asking during reviews or one-on-one meetings.

Every single time, my boss had the same answer: “Budget cuts, sorry.” He said the company could not afford a wage increase right now, and maybe next year things would change. That “year” just never seems to come.

I have been working at this company for a few years now. I know the systems, the clients, the daily work, and all the small things that keep the office running. New hires usually get paired with me because management knows I am patient and I explain things clearly. I never complained before.

But this time, something felt off.

But I still kept working. I picked up overtime. I helped other employees. I trained new workers when asked. I figured loyalty would count for something eventually.

It did not.

A few weeks ago, management announced they hired someone new for our team. No big deal at first. We need the help. Then I accidentally found out his pay. He was being paid about 40 percent more than me. I honestly thought it had to be a mistake.

I went straight to my boss and asked him about it. I reminded him that I had been begging for a raise for three years and was always told there was no budget. He barely looked uncomfortable. He actually smirked and said the new guy was fresh talent and the company needed to stay competitive.

That was the moment something in me just shut down. I said, “Got it,” and walked out of his office.

The next day, when I came into work, my boss froze when HR called us both in. I emailed them earlier and shared my side of the story.

I told HR that I was not comfortable training a new employee who makes significantly more money than me while my own wage has not increased in years. I said if my pay was adjusted, even slightly, I would reconsider.

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That did not go over well with my boss. Suddenly, he started talking about teamwork, company culture, and how training new employees is part of being a good worker. He said that refusing could affect my performance review.

To my surprise, HR agreed with him. But also said that they’ve “noted” my concern about the increment and will “see” if it fits the budget in the next fiscal year.

I do not blame the new worker. He did nothing wrong. My issue is with my employer and how they treat long-term employees. If a company can afford to pay someone new more, they can afford to give an increase to the people who kept the place running.

Right now, I am actively looking for a new job. I have updated my resume, and I am applying everywhere, but the job market is soooo bad. Unfortunately, I have to train the guy in the meantime. I feel stuck. What do I do?

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It makes sense if you think bout it...they're getting a cheaper better labour

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Their actions tell me more about the character and what's important of the people in leadership than any BS email telling how valued you are.
Sadly, a lot of people cannot see this or choose to ignore it and carry on.

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Just teach him the basics not what u have learned along the way let him wing it n learn by experience praybu find a better loyal employer

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I wouldn’t teach him anything that’s management job I speak from experience I refused to teach a new person and there was nothing that they could do.

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As a business owner, I always paid my employees that were there longer more. Not only are you paying them for their knowledge , you're paying them for loyalty. Continuity in business helps keep a strong business.

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DO NOT TRAIN HIM ...IS THAT IN YOUR CONTRACT ...TELL THEM CASH INCREASE OK NO CASH NO TRAIN ..STAND YOUR GROUND ....THEY WILL ONLY WALK OVER YOU MORE .DOCUMENT EVERYTHING AND DEPENDING WHICH STATE ...GO TO THE LABOUR BOARD ..

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Ask them why you should care about your performance review since it has never impacted you compensation before.

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This might sting but maybe they just didn't think you deserve a raise. And the new guy was more experienced and skilled

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Every new joinee needs to be told how things work. And maybe he has additional responsibilities too. Why would the company pay him so much more otherwise?

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Congratulations: You just helped the comment section meet is daily well-intended but less likely to be the case what-if-isms and maybe-ism quota! 🥳

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You don't want a 40% salary increase. You want a 60% retrospective salary increase - seniority, experience, SKILLS (you'll possibly settle for 50%) and if it's not in your next paycheque, you'll know what steps to take next. They've got the money honey, they just don't want to give it to you! Training of the new employee commences when you receive your salary increase.

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Lara u r soooo u know what if he was better acquisition then why the heck wud she have to train him.i wud give him all wrong info during training,& play dumb

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Here is my honest take. What I've learned over the years in this industry is, NO company properly values existing employees anymore. Now, new employees are brought in to fix all the problems the current Employees are apparently unable to fix. After a year or so, those same employees become part of the reason the company can't fix the same problems. Those employees usually aren't the problem. Leadership is with their egos. New people rarely make a difference at companies with problems larger than a few new people can fix. That said, my strategy is now to do my best to prove my value when I join a company and, after a few years, it's time to move to the next company where I will be thought to bring in value and can actually earn a fair compensation. No matter how good you are, expect that whatever your salary is when you join somewhere, if you want significant increase, you need to go to a new organization and fight for that raise. Your current employer won't give it.

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In my opinion, asking for a raise would be pointless and naive, at best. They've already told you what to expect. They see you as a worker bee and will never reward or promote you. Hey, somebody's got to do the work! My advice: fly under the radar at work & look for a new job. When you find one, inform your boss and leave that moment. You owe them nothing.

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I would have left the job after that Boss-HR meeting. If you're that much talented and you train other people, why you're just keep waiting? There are lot of opportunities out there. Don't stick to that environment where talent not appreciated.

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Maybe she has a mortgage and mouths to feed. Leaving in a huff is emotional. Waiting and forming a plan is mature and responsible.

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Had a similar experience in my carrier. Was taking part in interviewing of new members, one of them told me their pay scale. I was shocked, went had same set of discussions with managers, same reply, But I never took to HR, started keeping low profile, less workload, started searching new opportunity. Yes it took time for get one, but once I got put in paper they came back even on last day to counter my new offer to keep me, that's when I told you should have thought about it before when you didn't give me raise. Lesson learnt: You are replaceable, just don't wait for them to show your place, you choose yours. Don't worry just keep on your search once you have it walk out with head held high😊

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Sadly, it's become fairly common practice for companies to hire new employees at higher salaries in order to remain competitive in the job market, while never adjusting the salaries of existing employees to commensurate levels. Many employment consultants will tell you that the only way to get a raise which reflects your experience level is to change companies every five to seven years. Sorry you're experiencing this first hand, but gone are the days when you can work for the same company for 45 years and retire with a gold watch and a nice pension.

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Absolutely true! I agree with Julianna Carson. New employees are always hired making more than existing employees. Part of this stems from the fact that wages for new hires has increased while your
(current employee) wages have stayed the same. The company cound not hire a new employee for the same wage amount you are currently receiving. It is a fact now that the majority of employees do not get to enjoy employment with the same company long enough to retire with a pension. If someone has been at the same company for four or fives years or more without any raise or a decent raise; you have to change companies to achieve an increase in your wages. I used to work in the oil & gas industry in Oklahoma. During the oil bust in the mid eighties, there were large and small oil companies and oilfield related companies that laid off employees with no hope of being rehired. The larger oil companies bought out smaller oil companies thus closing the company that was acquired. I retired from the oil & gas industry with 35 years experience; unfortunately not 35 years with one company. I worked for 10 different oil & gas companies during the 35 years I worked. I worked with one of my coworker's at 3 different oil companies. I was fortunate enough to have worked in the oil & gas industry and didn't have to cjange industries. During times when there was an oil bust happening, the next company hired employees in at wages lower that the last company you were employed. Gone are the days when loyalty counted. Unfortunately, seniority and loyalty are not taken into consideration during reviews for increasing wages. Stay at your present job while continuing to search for a position with a company where you are able to increase your wages significantly. Please do not have a
knee-jerk reaction and quit your current position without having secured a position with another company. Also, give your notice to quit. The new company that hires you will be impressed you acted professionally by giving notice to quit. There is a god chance that your current company will make your last day the same day that you give your notice. If this happens, inform your employer that you wish to receive any wages owed to you before your exit. If this happens, you can start work for the new company sooner that expected. You should discuss with prospective companies you interview with if you could start work sooner if the current employer let's you out of the obligation to stay for the duration of your notice. Good luck in your search for a comprable position with increased wages.

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Loyalty counts for nothing. Change jobs every two or three years. That is how to maximize your wage

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You probably have grounds for a lawsuit. The fact that they admitted the new guy was "fresh" talent indicates possible age discrimination which is illegal. I would absolutely contact a lawyer.

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Start doing a HORRIBLE job!! STOP being a great worker! Work your wage....also think about teaching new guy NOTHING useful... payback is a bish but if you can get them to fire you then you can collect unemployment!! Don't quit get FIRED!!

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I agree.
It's time to go. Your employer is taking advantage of you. Train the new people on the basics of the job.

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To be honest, I would have just walked out. Just do what's legally expected of you. Don't train other people if you aren't meant/paid to train them. That's a managers job.

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A number of years ago while working for a travel software company, a person from outside the company was hired for a position for which I not only applied, but was also to manage data in an area I had worked for 6 years. I was told I would be the primary contact and was responsible for training on the system and the existing data issues. I had a choice to make. I chose to work with her and do the best for the projects on which we worked. As a result, we established a tremendous working relationship leading to extensive international travel. After time, we went in different directions within the company until one day I received a call and she told me there was going to be a job posted and I was to apply for it. Within 4 months I found myself searching for a flat in London as she hired me for that position. I spent nearly 2 years living and working there giving me the opportunity to have family and friends visit and share in the experience. All because of the choice I made. Maybe it's generational, maybe it's reciprocal or lack of reciprocal loyalty, but one never knows what good can come out of a seemingly bad situation. The choice is yours. I wish you well.

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Well, I think it's safe to say that had I taken the advice of you and many other posters I probably wouldn't have conducted business in over 30 countries on 5 continents and lived in the U K. Or received subsequent promotions.

Again, it is his choice and I wish him well.

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Ryan Stygar. Or any other employee lawyer and be sure you find written documentation or texts of conversations. Especially this one with HR. That shows you doing everything and getting nothing. 40% is not small change.

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Some years ago, I accepted a job that payed lower than I was looking for because they told me that they'd give me a bonus to make up the difference if my performance was satisfactory for that quarter.

A quarter passed and I was told my performance was stellar but they didn't have the money for the bonus and asked me to stick it out a little longer, which I did.

I did so much that even people just briefly visiting the establishment could see the significant improvement in the establishment, both physically and in professionalism, and often gave compliments on the progress.

During my short time there, I also discovered that the other managers had been bleeding the company dry and were some of the most unprofessional among the staff. Additionally, they were constantly trying to undermine or take credit for my work, but as the newest manager not too long on the job, I didn't bring it to upper management at the time (which I think would have just caused me problems and not resolved anything at that point, so I just kept track of what was happening if a time came that I felt I needed to say something); at one point I even thought they might have already known and we're building a case because some of it seemed obvious, but I later realized there very little oversight on the management team and senior management was clueless.

I eventually had it and resigned. A higher-up was trying to get me to return and I was considering it until I found out that another manager, who was among the worst of them in professionalism and was unnecessarily and intentionally costing the company several thousands (I mean, in the tens of thousands) weekly was given a raise to the amount I originally asked for. I never mentioned it to the person who was reaching out to me but that's what solidified my decision not to return. I figured they deserved what they got for stringing me along and rewarding the people who were stealing from them and maintaining the unprofessional environment to make themselves seem necessary to control the chaos.

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I do the same thing I have worked my ass off from 1985 $ 2.75 per hour I went to school and got a trade as a machinist and now they bringing outsiders but expect u to show them the ropes no way cause u will be on a sidelines for a layoff cheap labor

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Sorry as a student 2.75 to 3.50 than I had second job at canpar 5.75 per hour slept for 5 hrs that was a Best paycheck

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These stories are so dumb. Every single one has someone with a yellow stripe. Stands up for themselves, then cries on forums asking if they made the right decision. ffs. Fine. Know what? No. Sit down. Shut up. Eyes on your own work. Stop asking questions. Do your job. Nobody likes a tattletale or a quitter. fml

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Well didn't WE wake up on the WRONG SIDE OF THE TOILET, THIS MORNING? Go have ANOTHER DRINK, cuz only a drunken idiot, would say what you just did.

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This hurts to read.
You asked politely. For years.
They said no budget. Then paid more.
That’s not teamwork. That’s disrespect.
Training someone who earns more feels wrong.
Your reaction makes sense.
Keep looking elsewhere.
Loyalty without fairness burns people out.
You deserve better.

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