Imagine being so insecure that you can't handle the fact that your daughter-in-law may want to have dinner with her parents and siblings without you every now and then.
That's just bizarre and sad.
My DIL Said I Wasn’t "Family"—So I Served a Payback She Won’t Forget

I never imagined I’d be the one kicked out, watching “family time” happen without me. But when my daughter-in-law drew the line and left me out, I made a quiet but powerful decision. And trust me—she won’t forget it anytime soon.
Hi Bright Side! I’m Nora, and this is something that’s been weighing on my heart. Let me share my story.
When my son, Ethan, married Lena three years ago, I truly welcomed her as part of the family. I saw her as the daughter I never had. I have always supported my son and DIL. I lent them money, cooked, and babysat whenever they asked. I never kept score—I just thought that’s what families did for one another.
But clearly, Lena doesn’t see “family” the same way I do.

The day I realized I’m not “family”.
Just last week, Ethan mentioned they were planning a “family dinner” at their place. I smiled and quickly offered to help and bring dessert. But, my DIL looked me in the eye and said, “Oh, you’re not invited because it’s just going to be my parents and siblings this time.”
I blinked, unsure if I heard her right. “But... aren’t I immediate family?”

In all honesty if the MIL wasn't to be invited it shouldn't have been mentioned to her. The DIL could have said thank you for offering maybe next time since this time we're going to have just my side of the family instead of starting with 'You're not invited' There is no reason why son and DIL, son and grandbabies can't spend time with other family members. YOU sound like a toxic MIL
She gave me a tight-lipped smile. “We just wanted to keep it simple—with my side of the family.”
I was stunned. After everything I had done for them, I was being treated like some distant acquaintance. I helped them move into that house, helped decorate that dining room—yet I wasn’t good enough to sit at their table?
So, I responded quietly—but effectively.

what a drama queen . So she had her side over for dinner . What's big deal ? It was her parents over for a meal !! You need to HTFU and get a life .
At first, I did what most moms would—I cried in the laundry room and scrubbed the floors until I couldn’t feel the sting anymore. But that night, I remembered something important: Lena had once asked me for a favor.
A few weeks earlier, Lena had requested a reference letter for a job at a well-regarded private school. She said they valued strong family support systems, and she’d even mentioned how close we all were during her interview prep. She asked me to “talk her up a bit” if anyone contacted me.
So, I decided to send a short, sincere email to the school’s hiring committee.
I wrote:
“Lena is truly dedicated and works so well with children. She’s spoken often about how important family is to her, and we’ve shared many lovely moments—although it’s been a while since we last had a family dinner together. Wishing you the best with your hiring decision!”
No insults. No drama. Just facts—with a little context.
We had a falling out.
Two days later, Lena found out the school had selected another candidate. And the very next morning, she came to my home in full fury.
“You deliberately ruined this for me!” she snapped.
I calmly replied, “I told the truth, Lena. You claimed we were close, but then you turned around and excluded me. I didn’t say anything bad—I just let them know it’s been a while since we’ve shared a family moment. You painted one picture; I provided a more honest one.”
Ethan stood behind her, silent. Maybe he agreed with her. Maybe he didn’t. But he didn’t speak up, and that silence said a lot.
Things are cold now. There are no more fake pleasantries. Lena and I don’t pretend anymore. And sadly, we don’t see each other much at all. My husband, Mark, thinks I should extend an olive branch—that I should be the bigger person and reach out. But here’s the thing: I didn’t start this. I just stopped tolerating it.
I still miss the idea of family dinners, of being included, of being respected. But I don’t miss feeling like a second-class member of my own son’s life.
Would you have done the same? Or should I be the one to make peace first?
A woman revealed why she chose to stop paying her DIL’s medical bills in our previous letter. Read full story here: I Stopped Paying My DIL’s Medical Bills—I’m Not Her ATM Anymore.
Comments
I actually think that you are completely in the wrong At no point did she say that you were not family she simply wanted to spend time with just her parents and siblings and that is okay. You do not have to be involved in every single family event to be considered family. You could have asked if they could do a dinner with just your side at so.e point if it really bothered you that much. And your selfish actions after will now impact on your grandchild/children as you actively stopped her from getting a job. I do believe that you need to reach out and apologise.
I agree, daughter in law told her it was just her side This Time, she chose to take it the wrong way.
I agree, there is nothing wrong with DIL having a separate dinner. She wants to have some one on one time, maybe there were things to discuss privately. There probably has been times when it was just her. MIL was childish and selfish and purposely sabotaged her with that letter that would of benefited the family. On the other hand, there could of been other reasons she did not get job.
True all this and doubtful the school would've shared the veiled innuendo either or made their decision based on it...I call.BS too
Are you serious. Because the DIL wanted one dinner with her side of the family!! It's going to be a long time before you see your grandchild and maybe any future grandchildren again. You are not the center of the universe!!
Ah. She shouldn't have gotten that upset about a dinner but we see what type DIL you would be. The relationship with the grands comes through by her son. If her side of the family was upset with the husband, do you think she would allow them not to see the grands?
This woman is toxic. I'd keep her away from my kids too
Any relationship with my kids goes by way of us BOTH. These are OUR kids and if one of us says someone can't see them then they can't. Doesn't matter whose side of the family it's from.
You both made a very big assumption...that she didn't get the job because of what you put in the letter. There could be several other reasons why she didn't get the job. Nevertheless, you shouldn't have done it. Petty, spiteful and inappropriate. And you also lose points for bringing a professional enterprise into your family squabbles. Apologize.
You absolutely are TA. Because this woman wanted a meal with her side of the family you sent a letter in knowing it would damage her chances. You added that line to be petty. And while normally I would side with someone excluded. She didn't say "no you arent family" she said "I want a simple meal with one side of the family" how many times have you been iver without her family? Did you view them as less? You truly saw this as a reason to long term damage your child and his wife's future. I don't think I would want your olive branch. I would spend forever wondering what you would do if i didnt invite you to every single event. And i don't need that stress. Have you always been this petty?
You seem to think of this as a competition. I see absolutely nothing wrong with DIL wanting to host her own immediate family without you. You and your son are not joined at the hip. You are immature and your behavior is disgraceful. I would not be surprised if they erased you entirely.
Yes you are the AH. She is entitled to her family and only her family. What you did may be a deal breaker for her and your son. Good luck seeing the grandkids!!!! Apologize like you have never apologized before and hope she forgives you. And keep your nose out of their business. Just because you've done things for them in the past doesn't mean you own them!
They aren't allowed to hang out with her family without you? YOU are the AH. And why would your son mention it to you if you weren't invited? He's not too bright either. Your DIL is the only innocent in this story. Also, why would mentioning you haven't had a dinner in a while keep her from getting a job? This entire story is annoying. Time to watch some Poppy the prairie dog videos.
You are seriously confused! The woman has been at the sone and DIL beckon call, whatever, whenever! Because she accepted her DIL (her family INCLUDED) as family, only to be ditched at a "family " dinner! If you are married or in a serious relationship, I feel sorry for that person.
You're assuming an awful lot.
My wife and I often spend time with just her family or just mine...it is rarely both...and like most normal people, both sides have never even mentioned it because for most people this is a total non-issue...and most everyone here seems to agree with me...sorry!
For a woman at DILs beck and call, it's notably interesting that she neglected to provide that reference for weeks on end. She did, however, manage to find some time to do it as soon as she determined retribution was in order.
Tamara Harris, are you the MIL? You are taking this a little too personal. MIL is the AH and petty AF.
Schools really NEED to teach reading comprehension!
Please point out, in the body of Nora's letter as shown above, instances that would show Nora being at the "beck and call whatever and whenever' of Ethan and Lena.
Assumptions are not advised.
Nora stated that she welcomed, not accepted Lena and there's no mention of Lena's family being welcomed and/or included.
Please, point out any such instances.
I feel like I would have done the same thing out of pertness, HOWEVER, I know I would have just went silent on them and yes I'm a very jealous MEMAW and I don't like to share, I don't think I would destroy her career. I would just would stop doing for my son and DIL not my grandbaby. I know I've stepped over the line sometimes but things always fall back in place. Good luck 🤞
I do not believe you deserve such a graceful DIL any more than your DIL deserves to be in a position to endure such an overbearing and unreasonable MIL.
Pertness?
You are not the AH.
NTA. Honestly if she wants to work with children like that she should not be two faced like that. She is the AH for being fake and expecting you to play along after her cruelty. She tried to use you for her own gain and there is nothing wrong with telling the truth. Honestly, those kids deserve better than a petty gas lighter for a teacher. Honestly, what is wrong with you people? Do you not realize this woman is a monster?
For not inviting her to ONE dinner?? Don't be ridiculous.
Two faced for wanting to have some time with her parents? When she obviously used to spend a lot of time with her MIL? We do not know a lot of the details, neither the OP. The mother of the DIL could have requested the dinner, maybe to tell her daughter she has cancer. We do not know and cannot assume, but the OP doesn't either and should have taken the mature approach of talking about it instead of ruining something for her DIL.
I do not understand how DIL is two faced for saying she wanted to have a family dinner with just her family THIS time. She specifically made a point of limiting her wording to this dinner. I get along great with my SIL even though my daughter attends events with his family without me. I have a life of my own and don't need to be the Queen of everyone's attention.
Also, even if I was insulted by not being invited to dine with her in-laws I wouldn't be so petty to intentionally try to ruin my SIL's chances at a job. Not only because it's childish, but that will affect my daughter's financial stability as well.
Your DIL has every right to want to have dinner with her family. She wasn't rude in her delivery but YOU made it all about you. Try seeing this from her perspective and you will see your errors.
Good luck!
Nah. DIL is a bad word. Good for the MIL.
I agree with your statement. Sometimes when you get married, you just want time with your blood family and not include all the blended members. Perhaps this MIL making an immediate assumption she was included is something that happened a lot more up until this moment, and the DIL stepped up to have things the way she wanted things. You never really know.
Tell me why on Earth would she mention it when her mother-in-law was present? She meant it just as it was presented. We"re having a party and you are not invited. Get your own parents to write you a recommendation.
Reading for comprehension is your friend. Her own son told her, not the DIL. Try reading through that again, the DIL did nothing to cause this problem. MILs attitude and behaviors here were absolutely vindictive and uncalled for, she deserves zero sympathy for how she handled this.
I full-well understand why the lady responded as she did! The DIL uses her when it's convenient, then ditches her when she's not of any use! The letter I would've sent wouldn't have been nearly as nice! The DIL sounds like a spoiled b****, that has herself up on a very high pedestal.
Allowing someone the privilege occupying a grandmotherly role is not using them ... it's allowing them to contribute to the future of the family. Why should she not extend the same courtesy to her own family, who deserve private time with their daughter and grandkids also. This monster in law wasn't ditched, she simply wasn't part of this one moment ... which she blew entirely out of proportion despite having evidently been a part of MANY others. Man, who hurt you Tamara? That bitterness must come from somewhere, and its sure not from the facts of this story. You need a hug.
The dil is a spoiled brat for accepting the help and care from her mil for her children? She's a spoiled brat for wanting to spend time with her own family sometimes and not always with mil? Breathe. Slow down and read again please.
By going for her career, you harmed your grandchildren, perhaps irrevocably. That is unacceptable. You should have simply distanced yourself from the dil, or else requested a similar event with your own side of the family. She may have just wanted to see her own folks without having to play the "in front of mil" performance. Your performative lack of understanding is bad enough, but your behavior on an employment reference was beyond the pail. You need to offer a sincere apology now, and bot expect a reciprocal one from the dil and family that you wronged over a single dinner she wanted to have with her mom.
She wanted to have dinner with just her family and you shamed her? why? You are a huge AH. Not every family moment is about you. Some times it's about her Mom, her Dad, her Siblings. You are selfish to think family only means your son's relations.
MIL is definitely overstepping inviting herself to dinner. When she found out she wasn't invited she sabotaged a job opportunity for the DIL. The MIL behaved in a spiteful vindictive way then tried to paint herself as the victim. MIL is toxic.
That was BEYOND, jeopardizing a career over something so silly. Why can’t DIL have a family event with her family?!
DIL is entitled to have her family over for a visit! Ethan is entitled to have his family over! There is no rule that says every gathering has to include both sides of the family unless it is a holiday, birthday, graduation or some other event that all family members should attend.
The problem I see here is Ethan. He told his mother they were hosting a "family dinner." What he should have said, if he felt he needed to say anything at all is, "DIL is having her relatives over on such and such date." That way his mother would know to avoid dropping in on that day.
We too have a son and DIL. Sometimes we all get together, sometimes we don't. We enjoy our time with the kids without her family.
I completely agree.
I always have dinner with either my side or his side. Never the two together.
She does not have a DIL problem. She has a son problem, but does not want to admit it.
I believe both parties are wrong here and without knowing the full details I would say that the DIL could have been a bit more discreet and not mention the dinner as to not hurt the MIL feelings (some people are more sensitive than others), with that said the MIL should have waited until she could process the situation better and at last resort just simply not write a recommendation at all. Everyone is assuming DIL did not get the job because of that one little sentence written, if that is all the company took into consideration, DIL is better off finding a job somewhere where they appreciate the total package.
The DIL did not mention the dinner, her own son did that.
If she is constantly catering to you (his side of the family) why is she not allowed to cater once to hers without you?
MIL was so wrong! Her DIL has every right to have dinner with only her family. She needs to apologize and understand they are all still family even though the DIL wants to spend time with them separately.
Well, OK, OP you really stuck it to your DIL, so you should pat yourself on the back and feel smug. Now your son and DIL have the Ace to play ... them and your grandkids. Was it worth it to retaliate for a simple visit with her family? You may have won that battle, but guess who has all the cannons to use in the war you declared?
I kept my granddaughter for 5 years and I enjoyed every moment. I help my daughter's family when I can, but guess what, she can still entertain in her home without me. She's an adult.
Nope! Without knowing the complete story that one sentence would not have made a difference and the hiring process. Daughter-in-law is in the wrong for confronting her MIL.
This makes no sense. She didn't say someone from the school reached out to her for a reference, only that she wrote an email. O.K. And a family member as a reference? Ah.. unusual. Unless mil had a personal relationship with the recruiter, I call BS. But if it did happen, I bet this wasn't the first occasion she butted in to, which is why they said "this time".
She did not say you were not family she said they were doing dinner with just her side of the family. You got your feelings hurt for no good reason. You should have spoken to your son about your hurt feelings before acting out of spite. Now both of you have hurt feelings and lost trust in each other. Truth be told they should still be able to have private family time with both sides of the family without feelings being hurt and it doesn't mean that you aren't family or are less family. Think about how things could have been different if you would have been open about your feelings In the first place. They should have said that your daughter in-law needed time to feel still connected with her parents and a smaller family dinner is a better way to reconnect. I'm sure her family is not at every family meal you have had with them that doesn't mean that her side is less than family. I really feel that you maybe being more sensitive than needed and should analyze why you are feeling so insecure.perhaps you feel you do more for them than her family has is their some underlying resentment because of it
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