I Refuse to Have the Lowest Salary Despite Being the Oldest on My Team

Hard story to believe

Stay until you actually have a job lined up with the money you want. They showed there true colors. But make sure you have another job first.

That email you sent was one of the most brilliant "negotiating " techniques I've ever seen. It's too bad you didn't capitalize on its obvious success in waking up your boss and HR! You should also thank your boss for inadvertently giving you the idea, and just enough of a (albeit negative) push to "git er done!"

Yes, go for a better offer then not been appreciated by your boss.

Advise them if they will make your raise retroactive for five years and pay you the lump sum immediately you will stay! Otherwise move on quickly!

It's time to move on.

You've discovered that they do not respect you and I will tell you that they never will until you leave.

I tell you this as a manager who has worked for companies like this in the past and had to fight tooth and nail to get my direct reports that they deserved. A company like this will always use you and drop you when you're used up.

Yes, you're being too emotional

Depends. You're boss was right, you get what you negotiate. Now's the time to negotiate. Get what your worth, not what they offer. If not, then move on. GOOD LUCK!

I would say accept on condition they backdate it for a year at least, then you'll see how much they value you. Just remember it's a negotiation

On to greener pastures with lesson learned. They do not respect you or your contributions. Above and beyond is expected and rarely rewarded. If you stay they will know you have a price and will pile on more for due to the raise that should have been given long ago for the work you were already doing and you'll be in the same position.

Tough choice. I would consider giving your boss a chance although they are unlikely to appreciate your effort and you would need to remind them to remember to give you the raise next time. But considering your boss are not so mean. It is worth considering giving him and your company a chance.

This most important thing you ever learn is to value yourself. Good managers do not promote the "best negotiator" unless your job is all about negotiating. Otherwise, they are about seeing to THEIR team's professional development as well as seeing those who produce are rewarded or explaining why not. The biggest problem is always being kept down artificially to be their beast of burden. Leave and do not look back. You owe them the respect they gave you... nothing. Those good negotiators better get to work...Chop Chop.

Leave and don't look back!! They don't want you, just what you do for them. Respect yourself, because they don't.

No you are not making the wrong decision they knew they were paying you wrong so now you just have to be a person for yourself

U dun the right thang I wood stay if they doubled the offer that they wood if knot I'd walk

Tell them you'll consider staying if they paid the difference in your salary from everyone else's going back however long it all started🤣. You clearly deserve it. The 'better negotiators' comment was a bitch move

I stand with you on this. I have seen similar cynical treatment of loyal and highly qualified craftsmen. I worked (I can tell you now) at the Larson Company in Tucson, at one time the largest and most respected exhibits builders in the world. They hired the best people, but those people, despite their impressive skills were always the first fired when business inevitably slowed. It was a cost-cutting. Their best talent (women and men who had advanced degrees in fine art) were the most highly paid. We had an elite crew who did only dinosaurs.Their foreman, Tim Joyette -not his real name- was the best in the business. But they laid him off when they reckoned they were paying him too much. He took his crew with him. He usurped all their dinosaur business.
Gents would come in saying, 'We want to build a dinosaur theme park in Dubai, and, of course, we want Joyette; O, you say, he doesn't work here anymore? Give us his info.' Six months later Larson was out of business. Stick to your guns, my friend, those jerkoffs you worked for didn't deserve you, and I hope they got the royal shaft.

You're doing the right thing by leaving. The company knew what was going on, pay-wise, but they continued to exploit you. If they didn't appreciate you and treat you with respect BEFORE you have notice, they won't do it after you gave notice. Never accept a counter offer, either. Now that the company knows you're in play and seeking another job, they will hold onto you for just long enough to hire someone new and have you train them, then they'll let you go. Accept any of rhe new offers and out the current company in your rear view mirror.

I wouldn't have shown them all your previous job offers that you turned down. It confirms to them that you are in fact weak. Take the new job, otherwise, they'll be snickering (not so quietly) behind your back

The boss is partially right. If OP didn't ask for raises, that's not on the boss. Once the OP made it an issue, the company stepped up. Now, the negotiations begin. More pay, maybe a few more paid vacation days, maybe a percentage increase based on merit, not waiting to be asked. If the OP decides to stay, make them sweat. Go on at least one interview.

Change is good. In saying that don't cut off your nose to spite your face. Leave on good terms in case the grass isn't greener in new company. Best of luck.

If the other job offers pay more than your present job will (including their new raise), take it. Or, if the new job is comparable in pay but is a better work environment for you, go with that.

Nope. I worked 12 years at a retail firm. Before I was made a manager I was in manager training at what seemed like forever doing all the jobs of an assistant manager (at a lower salary). Due to number of things happening all in one month I gave my notice but somehow it hadn't trickled up to the higher management of the business until the day I was quitting. Suddenly, management figures that had barely said more than hello to me for years, were try to talk me out of quitting. It was very eye-opening- they warned me, give me veiled threats, then tried to advise, cajole and bribe me and to staying. They gave me a warm feeling all over - ha ha. I knew the real reason they were so anxious to keep me was they would get bitched at for losing someone and they would have to work hard covering my spot till they found somebody. Good.

If you stay they won't value you. I'm in a similar situation but can't find another job, I've tried.

Don't give them the time of day just go to the new job knowing you have the talent and skills you need and don't let this happen again.

You could have quietly negotiated that decent raise and continued working without showing how rattled you were about their response...
Maybe looking back you did let those initial emotions jolt you ND trigger all these next reactions however if you are truly tired of this place dont like the people who never gave you the respect you deserve wanting out then go with a fresh new start. Just be sure what new environment you are stepping into...wouldn't want it to feel more toxic than the place you are leaving
Sometimes the biggest paycheck doesn't actually mean you are going to be the happiest there
but you will know and I wish you the best outcome

I appreciate this article! As women, we are considered the weaker vessel, and in some ways that's true; however, Our Creator has given each of us particular gifts, and our gifts will make room for us! Stay focused and continue to listen for His Voice and He will direct you! The Word of God says in Proverbs chapter 3 and verses 5 and 6 ""TRUST IN THE LORD WITH ALL THINE HEART, AND, LEAN NOT TO THY OWN UNDERSTANDING; BUT, IN ALL THY WAYS ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AND HE SHALL (NOT MAYBE) , SHALL DIRECT THY PATH!" 🤗🌷⏰️

Never stay where you aren't respected. Payback is .........

Tell your boss if he gives you back pay for those 9 years, you will consider.

Make sure you tell your old boss that "he gets what he paid for" as you walk out the door!

Unfortunately, deliberately under-paying valuable, dedicated employees has become all too common in today's corporate culture. Often, the only way to get the kind of raise that is commensurate with your skill and experience is to move to a competing company. So take the new position and don't look back.

No you should go where you are wanted when you talked to your manager he basically told you you are weak and not worth any extra i hope you enjoy your new job if you wake up happy to go to work thats all that matters

I am an emotional doer so I see your dilemma.
The facts are facts,
Disrespect was there
They didn't value you.
But you didn't value yourself.
Is there any benefits to the job - besides the money.
Do you wake up anxious or happy to go to work?
Does it fit around family responsibilities?
Does it give you a work life balance.

Before I continue - YOU deserve the pay rise. OBVIOUSLY and take it if you stay. But before you consider jumping ship, consider the above.

Sure you could go to a job that pays you more and seems to "value/respect" from the offset.

But money is not the fix all solution.

Money is not the only thing a work place can offer.

Most importantly The best lesson to get from this is to value yourself!

Ask for a late bonus of $50000 for each year you have been working there

While the boss may have been right about your nego skills, it is your manager's responsibility to apply equity to everyone's inputs. Your boss was irresponsible.

Stay but get a golden parachute contract and have them backdate the raise and pay interest on the owed amount.

I would stay if they went back and counted the hours they fucked me over and gave me the back pay I deserve

Bye! Know your worth and chin up when you clean out your space.

Never stay after you've given notice. They showed you what they thought of you.

Know your worth..you've learned it. Now move on...forward ➡️

well done. always stick to your principles. this is why you are supposed to change jobs every 4 years or so. because if you stay at the same place for too long, they take you for granted and thats why they underpaid you and under appreciated you. my ex-manager told me if your employer treats you like crap, then quit and go work for the competition. regardless of whether the competition pays less or more, its about principle and doing the right thing. go where you are treated best and appreciated. well done and congratulations. you should have quit much sooner!

I'd leave. Boss thought it was funny to underpay you

Always ask 20 to 60 percent what the standard industry is offering it works my salary average is $60k I asked for $97k and got it ,we'll you have to be good at what you
were hired on for

I would have simply said "f*** off"😏👅🖕

Well, you got what you asked for but don't be surprised if you decide to stay they slowly give your clients to other team members. As for leaving, it depends how cut throat your business is and how "high school" they act and if everyone knows everyone and talks.

Don't know whatcha got til it's gone - Cinderella

Don’t let the door hit your …. On your way out …
Congratulations for standing up for yourself … your soon to be ex-old boss is an idiot …

Hell no! Leave and take your experience where it's appreciated and where your compensated accordingly! LOOK OUT FOR YOU AND NO ONE ELSE!

Paid bottom of the pile wage for being top of the heap employee - your wage should have gone up as your underlings wages did, you should always have been getting a percentage more than your highest paid underling, they played you for a fool because you weren't greedy or manipulative. Much success in your new job, very much your old bosses miscalculation and loss, now he'll realize his being slimey let a good and faithful employee slip away hehehe.

You made the right choice. My boss kept refusing to provide additional headcounts for my team despite knowing we were understaffed and putting in additional hours to get our job. The moment I tendered my resignation, she offered to give me 2 additional headcounts and a raise to match my new job offer. Too late.

Totally normal, if they don't respect you, then you don't have to respect them. An eye 👁️ for an eye 👁️, a teeth 🦷 for a teeth 🦷 it's tempting to accept their offer, but on the hind side, they might abuse you latter as revenge.