I Refuse to Install Work Software on My Personal Phone, I’m Not Trading My Privacy for a Paycheck

they were out of line to expect you to do that. Stand your ground.

Ok here's an idea do it and then use your cost of phone and phone bill as a tax write off at the end of the year because it's your work phone now too?! That's what I would do, don't be stupid get that money dummy.
If it's seriously about privacy you can always just buy a burner cheap touch screen phone and use Wi-Fi to access the app you don't really need a phone plan for it, this also could be a write off at the end of the year.

Think the outside the box there's more than one option here and I'm sure after this hiccup they'll appreciate it if you show that you can problem solve.

Install the app then mute all of them they don't pay your phone bill they refuse to give you a phone once you clock out your time is yours I was made to do the same thing and then blocked it they still don't realize it

What's the big deal ...load the App and stop crying. If it's that big a deal leave. If I was the manager you'd be out the door already.

If the job is worth it buy yourself a new personal phone and #.

Unfortunately you see this everywhere in the workplace these days. I refuse to do work on my personal phone as well and have also been told it can affect "the team" I also told them the same, then provide me a phone. There are upset with my decision but also know they can't force it. Also, for anyone who does install work apps on their phone, read the fine print. They have the ability to wipe your phone off they deem it a threat or a virus from anywhere gets in and threatens the company. Phone numbers, gone, your kids, girlfriend, special event photos, all gone. Yes, they are legally allowed to wipe your phone.... it's in the fine print. Separate work from home!!!! It's your time and are they paying your phone bill?

Ask how you install an app on a Nokia 3310.

By the way any app that you have on your phone, any one of those companies at anytime can take control over your phone. The only things stopping them is morality and legality. Lawsuits have been won against companies who expected their employees to open work-related emails on their private phones.

No company phone offered, then have the company change the permissions they want, so it doesn't impact your privacy or continue to refuse to install app. You are trying to meet them half way, but if they aren't, look for another job.

Actually if I were in your shoes, which I am. I would tell my boss, you don't have to get me a phone, just give me a phone allowance per month and I will be happy to install the app. The company I work for does that.

It might have been the dream job but now that you know the company cares nothing about privacy or boundaries, or what privacy they'll ask to violate in the future, hopefully you realize it's not the dream you thought it was and can leave as soon as possible.

As Benjamin Franklin has been quoted as saying.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Even court's historically won't give a warrant to invade someone's cell phone privacy so hopefully you never have to work with or for anyone that suggests you give up your privacy. They can't ever be trusted.

Good luck. I hope everything works out for you.

You are absolutely right on your stand. I have refused to use my phone for work related issues, wouldn't let the company publish my phone number for company employees and refused to be photographed for the company website. I am available while I'm at work for any questions regarding work but my immediate supervisor has my phone number and knows he has a 30 minute window to call me after work for any questions. After that I won't discuss work issues, my time is my time . Good for you for standing your ground.

Technically you're correct but no one likes a drama queen. According to you this is a good company and a great opportunity. If it were me I'd solve the problem myself by either downloading the app like everyone else or getting a 2nd phone on $15 per month plan. I definitely wouldn't be walking off the job 1st day or calling my new bosses boss, hr and whatever other mess you're bringing into this on my 2nd day. Honestly sounds like this company is dodging a bullet with you

Dont do it

It seems to be the norm these days with employers expecting staff to use their personal phones for work and I am with you, it is wrong. I have backed out of some instances where a personal phone is requested and did not hear much push back. It’s too invasive—period.

Go get a different job

I totally get your concern, as a teacher, I refused to call parents from my personal number. Initially, I just got a cheap "work" phone and eventually a Google number when that was invented. Given that they are texting you on your personal phone, technically, you do use it for work. Ok the other hand, they still can contact you, so not sure why you need to the app. Can you get a cheap work phone? Check your contract to see if this app is a requirement. If you like this job, seriously consider if it's worth losing it for this.

I dont think you should download the app

I agree about installing company aps on personal phones. Perhaps you could suggest a compromise. Purchase a cheap phone spwcifically for work use. Makes tax time easier cos you can then claim 100% of it on tax. Plus you can ignore it when outside work hours. Good Luck.

Just install the app. Jeez you are making a mountain out of something that is the norm.

Could a personal phone be "summoned" by lawyers or court if the company gets in trouble?

Stand your ground. Maybe buy a very cheap phone and bill them for it and the monthly bill.

They aren't used to employees standing up for themselves and are worried the rest of the team will join on with you. If they want you to use a phone for work they need to pay/provide it.

I would probably just get the cheapest device for that. Had the same situation